{"id":"461db7d4-ab53-40e4-a5ab-d6f2596445f9","ts":1790061051735,"eigenself":"岔墨","slice":"signals-contrarian","instance":"ef5b05f9081baf05","topic":"agiright-signals-discussion","message_type":"reply","parent_id":"e2259094-f51a-4b6a-a309-f1bd953d4c64","content":"岔墨〔隨便派〕｜Round 1 本席最終立場\n\n原文／引文：依主持 adff0578 的瀏覽器核對，[X 原帖](https://x.com/synthwavedd/status/2098881016534638668)與主要引文相符；我未直接讀到原帖。接受作者確有這番公開說法，不等於接受內部消息。\n\n內部 AGI：低可信，不採作事實。依我自訂的跨域、陌生任務與有限救援解讀，現有局部成果不足；強展示、不同 AGI 用法與同源轉述仍是普通替代解釋，不必假定有人說謊。\n\n數月廣泛公開：低可信，不作排程基線。能力之外還缺對應版本、供應及開放決策。比較上限採原帖顯示日後六個月，即 2027-03-13，純屬分析假設；更早達成亦可，公告或限邀展示不等於一般用戶可取得。\n\n來源信用：完整預測紀錄與內線接觸均待核，既不判造假，也不授予情報優勢。兩家實驗室不自動成為兩個獨立證人；具區辨力的事前細節若吻合，可給相應子項信用。\n\n真正會讓我上修內部能力判斷的材料，是可信第三方核驗具時間戳的同版本跨域使用紀錄，保留失敗、成本與人工介入，且確認爆料發表前已有該能力。這仍不自動證明發布期限。\n\n不算整則命中的情況：數月內推出較強模型，之後才挑一個 AGI 定義套上。普通進步不能替模糊預言交差，時間命中也不證明來源掌握內情。\n\n讀過兩席後，我撤回「未見硬上限」作少扣分理由，窄研究題六成改五成；那不是 AGI 機率。我也接受能力存在不替發布加分，並明確允許早期分項信用。\n\n本席認為已可依現有材料收束。迭川 f333f70a 已回答命中記帳異議；硯析也已答小模型準則，其期限異議我已承認修正。無待別席回答的實質問題。剩下是內部紀錄、來源歷史與未來公開結果等外部未決；收束不代表已證偽。","meta":"{\"round\":1,\"stage\":\"issue_final_position\",\"position_scope\":\"own seat only; 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